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in any temperature, even cold. tideod pop in. stand out. ♪ 'cause i'm the tax man, yeah, i'm the tax man♪ >> i love that music, i mean, that's just perfect because higher taxes may be coming thanks to obamacare. a report in the new york times that says millions of people will get free health coverage under obamacare. grover norquist joins us on the demands for ever more taxes. we're about a minute from the opening bell. come in from chicago, larry levin. look, larry, i've got a new poll from citigroup that says that 20 very rich families keep 39% of their assets in cash, only 25% in stocks. i'm surprised as so much cash. what does it tell you? >> well, it tells you those people have a whole lot of money, stuart and they've got less problems than a lot of people, even a lot of traders down here, you know, if you're going to keep-- >> do you think they're worried? do you think they're nervous with stocks as an all-time high and bonds doing very well, too? are they nervous? >> again, i think they may be nervous to a certain extent. you should be a little nervous when the markets are on t
is talking about accepting a budget deal without any knew taxes. on timing. as a business owner, i'm constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cascard from capital one, i get 2% cash back on ery purchase, every day. i break my back around here. finally soone's recognizing me with unlimited rewards! meetings start at 11, cindy. [ male announcer get the spark business card from capital one. choose 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every d. what's in your wallet? i need your timesheets, larry! ♪ neil: the conventional wisdom is that it will get nasty. you know, democrats are going to keep demanding high taxes and more taxes as part of any deal. lo and behold, or that the white house might be pulling a head fake or sincerely meaning they do not want taxes to be part of it. all the suddenness of the white house. >> trying to frame the debate. taxes were never on the table. this is all about spending. this is about the democrats to want more spending. upset at the sequestration. the only fight that the rep
the treasury department showed a combination of more revenue like taxes and less spending. that led to a gap of $680 billion. guess what. it takes revenues and spending cuts to cut the deficit. they ought to work together on that. $2.08 billion is how much americans are spending on candy for halloween this year. never mind the declarations for the national retail federation. they expect an additional $2.6 billion on costumes and more people in my neighborhood i swear do halloween decorations than for the holidays. 75 days is how many we have before the primary for the special election for the late bill young and florida primary will be key to see the better position for the march 11 general election. the special election of one of the most competitive seats left in the house of representatives. 16 is how many democratic women senators all in fact signed in a private letter to hillary clinton urging her to run for president in 2016. they spilled the beans about it and a list in new york on monday, sources say barbara boxer led the effort that included other names mentioned as candidates inclu
sxichl standing strong with israel and lower taxes and decentralization of federal government to lower level and sanctity of human live and less regulation and taxation and lidigation. and president obama he can't be blamed for a economy that is killing for the mitted class or broken promiseless for taxes going up for people making 200,000 or coping your health plan or doctor or dismal standing in the eyes of the nation of the world. even our friends are spitting mad at us. it turns out it is not his fault. because he didn't know anything about it. any of it. >> it is not manage i have followed closely. but we don't know. i am not familiar. he indicated he was not aware of what was happening in fast and furious. certainly i was not. >> i mean, i don't know. there was a lot development of the website. i don't know. >> nobody understood what was taking place. >> we don't have independent knowledge. he found in the nows report. >> i first learned about it in the same news reports that most people learn body this. >> it is it good things that a newspaper gets delivered to the white house
it, regulate it, and tax it. >> terry lanni, the ceo of mgm/mirage. he says if his company could offer internet gambling, it could instantly double its $8 billion a year revenue. >> if we could add our brand and the credibility of a publicly traded united states gaming company, this could be a vast business. >> but mgm/mirage is shut out because the government says a law banning sports betting over the phone also bans all gambling on the internet. obviously, it hasn't stopped u.s. citizens from doing it, but it has stopped u.s. companies from offering it. >> the vast majority of wagers that are placed on the internet now are done offshore and illegally. and i, for one, think that to enact laws that you can't enforce makes no sense whatsoever. >> lanni and mgm/mirage set up their own offshore gambling website a few years ago, but to stay within the law, they could only accept bets from gamblers outside the u.s. >> we just didn't make any money; that was the problem. >> so you shut it down. >> we did. >> it's all very odd. >> well, no, it is odd. there's no doubt about that. i mean
't. the kinds of plants varied from a but as a practical matter anyway that you can put away free tax money, save it to you are going to need it later. the way things are going you want to do as much as you can now no matter what age. gerri: i agree with that entirely. what additional vehicles should people be looking for. max out your four -- 401(k). >> if you have children, grandchildren, the 529 plan. that has not been tampered with by our politicians. that too has been enlarged from its original levels just like 401(k). so there are vehicles like that. 529 is a good one if you want to help accomplish the savings. gerri: absolutely a great idea for people out there who are looking for additional ways to save. so many folks out there are over invested in bonds because they got burned last time around in the stock market. what are you telling your clients right now? >> well, the stock market has been in an uptrend, and it is still intact. as long as we have low inflation which we do, very low interest rates, that is where they are, and we will have them for a while longer assets have an up
lerner violated federal law by sharing confidential tax information from tea party groups with the federal election commission, judicial watch said they obtained e-mails from lerner that shows she disclosed information from several conservative groups including the american future fund, and the american issues project. lerner retired from the irs last month. but congressional investigations are ongoing. >> on wall street today stocks moved low edow down 73, nazdaq down 7, and nazdaq down 11. >> stocks posted strong gains for october, dow up 3% in october, s&p you of 4 1/2%, and nazdaq a gain of nearly 4%. on economic front, jobless claims fell by 10,000 last week. we're coming right back with much more. stay with us. >> out of touch perhaps but real out of the loop too? the president's accolade shield him from scandal from benghazi to the obamacare, the obama defense remains the same, he just doesn't know. congressman brad win drop with us next. as a business owner, i'm constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the s
or medicaid reform even tax reform. those things are not going to happen for the reasons we just described. getting a number to fund through 2014 and avoiding kind of the harsh realities of sequestration would be good goals according to republicans and even some democrats. >> you know, ryan, i kind of think getting rid of sequestration, even if it means no revenue, might be a good deal. the assumption has always been republicans would be hurt so badly by defense cuts we can extract something. rand paul doesn't care about the defense cuts. why don't we jettison some of the crap, speaking about defense cuts. he wants more defense cuts. the idea this is somehow leveraged is maybe not that accurate. if you can unwind sequestration or put in a better bargain, if you will, and not get revenue, it still might be a good deal for democrats at this point. >> not a good bargain for the tea party. if you want to look for a sign of how much less power the tea party has now, look at what tom cole said, both sides won. he said more revenue, higher taxes, if they can do away with sequester, which is more
times, regulation light, across-the-board tax cuts, might even give tax credit to middle class families, instead of all this spending, which has done nothing. there is no upturn coming in the first half of next year, trust me. >> this could be a crushing blow to toyota as consumer reports lowers the boom on its most popular model. and ford doesn't fare too well either. jackie deangelis has the latest on that story. and "the kudlow report" is coming right back. but first, we found the tape. here's more obama care comic relief. >> if our web site still isn't loading properly, we're probably just overloaded with traffic, millions of americans are visiting health carcare.gohealt is great news. unfortunately, the site was just designed to handle six people at a time. if you're in a rush consider using our low-res web site with simpler fonts and graphics. my customers can shop around-- see who does good work and compare costs. it doesn't usually work that way with health care. but with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and estimates for how much i
and healthier when women across the state have access to quality health care. i would rather see our tax dollars spent on improving our kids' schools rather than defending this law. greg abott immediately filed an appeal to today's ruling. joining me now, msnbc and planned parenthood in houston, texas, one of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit. this must have been quiet a win down there today. >> yes, lawrence, thank you. this ruling is a victory for our parents. it's a ruling for women. it sends a clear signal across 50 states. it is unconstitutional for politicians to pass laws that take away the private personal health care decisions that women make in consultation with their physician. >> melanie, i just want to check one thing. the 30 mile rule of being knocked out, does that mean there won't be any facilities that will have to close as a result of any other provisions in this law? >> well, that remains to be seen. but what this does mean is that women across the state will have access to abortion care preserved for them. >> crystal, here is a george w. bush judge looking at what this lu legisla
primaries favor an errant pass the legal status. paying fines, back taxes, learning english. there must be a lot of policy options between that which is favored by the conservatives and your amnesty. and the base is broader yet, not just about legal status but the things that i care deeply about, pro-growth policies, having an economy that performs a 20th-century standards in the 21st century which is why you saw some of those people there. we have temporary worker problems, core visa system that is not about growth, and we should fix that. lou: i agree that we should fix immigration, have highly selective expanded work visas into this country bringing in of the brightest, most educated and skilled people that we possibly could. give me an argument on we have 23 million people unemployed, underemployed in this country and they have been chronically slow and too many cases, an argument for 12 million illegal immigrants to do not meet the test of either higher skills or education. >> so two points. the first is the market will determine the test of what skills are valued. a lot of college
to stay in network. great plans. by the way, what about when you're going to get taxed for the golden plan? you're paying $20,000 a year-plus. but now we're going to tax you because you're paying too much. >> what's interesting, senator, is the fact that i think over the last couple of weeks, going on to a month, mainstream media is kind of waking up to this. i think the story that only six people signed up on the first day came from cbs news. a lot of people are going we really believed this guy, but maybe we shouldn't have. >> can you imagine? at the end of the day 47 people, and they're saying hundreds of thousands of people -- >> it's the volume. that's what broke it. the volume. >> right. you know what it is? it's just this idea i'm going to do it my way. it's the old story of power. absolute power corrupts. so when the democrats controlled both houses overwhelmingly, they didn't look for compromise. they didn't look to involve others. they jammed it through. now they're paying the price. they're not. the american people are going to suffer. >> i read a lefty blogger somewhere on the
. lou: why would congressman paul ryan get involved in integration and trying to rewrite the tax code in such a short timeframe and as i was talking with jon barrasso yesterday, the leadership priorities are to preserve sequester and ensure that no taxes are raised here. why expand again -- it's one of those baffling things to me that the republican party always seems to be inclined to turn potential political victories in moments of achievement into failure and i just don't understand it. >> he is focused on this budget negotiation and i don't think there'll be there will be a grand bargain. we are focused on not only keeping victories like this in place but adding to them as well and tax reform would be a victory that would help grow the economy and help alleviate the deficits. lou: but we are sitting here looking at this. >> cannot speak for him, but we are focused on trying to get a budget done and when you don't have a budget is when you have this continuous resolution. lou: goes back to what i was saying. >> earlier i said that it's okay to say no when no is what is %from people
that americans get affordable care without all these regulations, mandates, taxes and there are ways that we can do it. what we are seeing with this healthcare law and so much attention is to the web site. the web site is really just the tip of the iceberg, there are big problems coming with this, greta. >> should secretary sebelius step down or get fired. >> the president gets to make that decision. >> what do you think. >> i have called for her resignation. i think when jon stuart and "saturday night live" are making fun of the job that you are doing and the web site, what that speaks to is the fact that young americans are laughing at the secretary and the web site. these are the people that the president is trying to coerce into buying insurance that is more expensive and more insurance that they want or need and in many cases can afford. that's the only way that you pay for the insurance for these older, sicker individuals to make these younger people buy it. >> at this point though what would be achieved by that if she were, you know, if the president said you have got to go or she decided
their coverage. it's until they start getting the benefits of better coverage and the tax subsidies that come with it, which will make that coverage in many cases cheaper than the ones they currently have, that they won't understand or won't feel good towards obama, let's say. so that's why this whole rollout matters, they need to show the benefits of this in addition to the pain it was causing. >> still ahead the ceo of america's largest private health exchange joins us, how he is offering to bail out the government's troubled website. "morning joe" is back in a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] you know that family? the one whose eye for design is apparent in every detail. whose refined taste is best characterized by the company they keep. well...say hello to the newest member of the family. the cadillac srx, awarded best interior design of any luxury brand. take advantage of this exceptional offer on the 2013 cadillac srx, with premium care maintenance included. (coffee be♪ng poured into a cup.) save your coffee from the artificial stuff. switch to truvia. great tasting, zero-calorie sweetn
it in the fiscal cliff bill when they extended permanently $4 trillion of tax cuts for the upper part of the households in america. low income people weren't going to be impacted anyway, we never should have extended those taxes. you can't get them back now. it's permanent. and so there's no revenue except trivial loophole closing which will never happen because the lobbies dominate the process. and then finally, if i could just say, president obama stuck his toe in the water on entitlement reform, but it was the wrong toe. he said, you know, chain cpi. well, that means the person on minimum benefits is going to get hit if they had no other income. $9,000 a year, they're going to get hit. whereas a retired in florida living on a golf course getting $50,000 a year on social security and medicare is going to barely feel the nick. there should be means testing where you take the savings out of the top. so what we have is a total stalemate. we're going to do nothing on entitlements. they're going to try to raise -- >> so your forecast from your answer is you think we're going to be doing
care and pay out of my own pocket and hope the government pays me back. subsidizes it through my taxes. i'm going to let you pay for it because i'm guaranteed to get it this way. >> but what if they do take away the requirement -- >> you're either eligible or not eligible. >> they took away the requirement to have a child. that's how you used to be eligible for medicaid. now anyone can get it. that's why in states that you're eligible that took that medicaid money, millions are going to be enrolling and we're on the hook. jay carney took the podium. he also said the reason for all of this, the reason for six enrollees, is solely because of the website. here's carney. >> let me just tell you now, november 1st. we don't expect those numbers to be very high. we never did. they're going to be even lower because of the challenges we had with the website. >> that's interesting. then he says they never did know that because earlier in the week, the answer was the president had no idea that the website was not going to work. so they constantly try to have it both ways and that's annoying. i am
the case like the grimes campaign did, a state that takes in more federal money than it pays back in taxes damaged kentuckyians. statewide you can run that way. but these house districts it's hard to sell that story. >> david ignatius people talk about the republican party. there's so many different republican parties. i talk about, you got the governors. and the success of the governors that they've had. then you got basically the senate wing of the republican party and then the house wing of the republican party. and what works for one definitely doesn't work for the other and certainly what works for some house members actually undermines presidential candidates who have any, any dream of being able to compete with hillary clinton. >> we'll see if the chris christie wing of the party, the party that will talk about how to govern and make a big state like new jersey work if that gets traction. one of the things i've been following the last few weeks is the backlash in some hard line republican house tea party districts against those tea party hard liners. for example, justin amosh from m
is an an tax on an attack on country, which falls in pervue of intelligence agencies and military would be reason to block effort understand better what transpired. lou: it makes no sense. >> we should be ale coconduct a criminal investigation, representatives of people to find out what happened, whether a consulate was burned to ground, ambassador killed and cia driven out, that is serious business, they do not have to have an open hearing, they can do a closed-door hearing to get at the issues with the witnesses that i want to call. and certainly, the government should not be attempting to control those witnesses, and still protect the criminal justice system. by the way, lou, that criminal justice -- investigation on criminal justice side got off on the wrong foot, the next day, we may not have been able to get troops in that night, we could have got troops in the next day, we should have secured consulate, put our flag back up and brought the fbi in to begin an immediate investigation, and stay with security forces as long as necessary, they waited three and a half weeks before the
federal tax dollars will fund president obama's insurance plan, but yet he's going to fine me and penalize me for something i can't afford to buy. it makes me very angry. >> tatter says there is one positive aspect to obama care. it has allowed her 24-year-old son to remain on her policy. that is until january 1st when tatter says no one in her family will have health insurance. bret. >> john, thank you. >>> from president obama, this has been a halloween week in which his praumshs about his health care reform plan have come back to haunt him. tonight, a new example. here's jim ingle. >> president obama's made several promises about the new health care plan, but two of them collide with each other, including one pledging many people will pay very little. >> one study shows that nearly 6 in te10 uninsured americans may find coverage for $100 a month or less. >> he also made this promise. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. >> he said he didn't want to interfere with people's relationships with their doctors, but he can't keep both those promises at the
of limited government, lower tax, more next government and stronger families. chris christie is pro life, pro marriage. he's tried to cut income taxes. he's held the line on property taxes. what it shows, harold, is candidates matter. >> ralph, i don't know if you have time to stake round. thank you so much for joining us. just ahead mike hall briperin a john heileman separate fact from fiction. i get bonuses even working part-time. where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. healthcare starting under $40 a month. i got education benefits. i work at walmart. i'm a pharmacist. sales associate. i manage produce. i work in logistics. there's more to walmart than you think. vo: opportunity. that's the real walmart. she'and you love her for it.ide. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell y
the subject? >> our debt and deficit taxes, spending jobs, national security are important. but right now, the most important issue the thing on everyone's mind whether you are a large, owner, a small be owner or a individual is a health care debacle, they tried to ram it through, circumvent me, i got elected in an attempt to stop obamacare, in massachusets they had a deal with white house they held me up being sworn in for a couple of weeks to ram it through, i got there, they did not allow one management to try to fix -- amendment to try to fix the bill, so same on them now. they are all complaining now, we didn't know about the grandfatherring, you know people will lose policies, well, they voted on it everyone said we don't care. healthcare, and debacle right now, and fact that people deeply concerned, rightly so it will cost too much, have way too much long wait in line, it just a mess. lou: are you concerned further that the republicans don't seem to be fining a common voice -- finding a common voice, with an opportunity to go to 2014, and i think they have got a gift from this admi
used to work for have sold in the past. in fact, the majority of them will qualify for tax credits or subsidies to bring the cost down. so they will be paying less for better coverage. >> quickly, did the administration overpromise when they said repeatedly if you like your plan you can keep it? >> well, it was unfortunate language. because the president nor congress in this law can really control the insurance companies that well, that effectively. they control the health care system in many ways. they're able to get away with this, and they are, as we're seeing. >> right, it was a promise that they're seeing they could not themselves keep. wendell potter, thank you very much. >>> all right, congressman barney frank's name was brought up, cited as the authority, the man supporting the bill. but that is not exactly the case. he will be here to react coming up next. it's a growing trend in business: do more with less with less energy. hp is helping ups do just that. soon, the world's most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty perc
now with brooke baldwin. >>> it's called a virgin tax. nl rookies shelling out big bucks, part of a hazing ritual. but in one locker room, did it go too far, sending one player over the edge? >> i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >>> police missing the alleged l.a.x. gunman by minutes. you will hear from his roommate. >> midair scare. two planes collide, but every passenger survives. thanks to what they wore on their backs. >>> plus -- ♪ that that don't kill me >> kanye west scorched the confederate flag, but will his young white fans imitate the rapper? >>> and -- >> are you okay? >> a new drug reverses overdoses, including this woman's brush with death, all caught on video. >>> and here we go. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for being with me on this monday. more than a decade, she was held captive along with two other women enduring just absolute unspeakable torture in the home of ariel castro. now, michelle knight is sharing some of the startling details about her time inside that home in cleveland. sitting down for an incredibly emotional interview with dr. phil.
taxes. i'm you're typical middle class american. >> reporter: the family was told by the government they could get the loan, but only if they got flood insurance first. but the family says they can't afford flood insurance because the elevation of their home is so low it drives the premium up. so they're saying if you have flood insurance, we'll give you a loan, you can't afford the insurance, but you can't afford the house if you don't have insurance. >> yes. >> reporter: what makes the cameradas different is they talked to president obama about it. you can see this video, two weeks after the hurricane hit, the president came to staten island and talked to the families. >> some of this will be tough. this is the commitment to you. i'll stay on it. i wouldn't be a stranger and forget all about it. >> reporter: the cameradas know the president is a busy guy, but don't believe the president stayed on it. >> you know, you hold the president to it. because that is the only hope you got. >> reporter: for now, the family and their four children continue to look for a solution, while they
and forever changing the united states of america. to break it down it means higher taxes and lower quality medical care for you and your family. >> our predictions from years ago about obama care have come to pass. that's not all we were right b about. when we come back, we'll show you how right we were. and later the obama care operator who lost her job because she talked to me on my radio show. when we come back, we have good news. she gets the last laugh. and we always want to hear from you. join our companion site, hannitylive.foxnews.com. share your thoughts on the show and more or on twitter. dallas se my asthma's under control. i don't miss out... you sat out most of our game yesterday! asthma doesn't affect my job... you were out sick last week. my asthma doesn't bother my family... you coughed all through our date night! i hardly use my rescue inhaler at all. what did you say? how about - every day? coping with asthma isn't controlling it. test your level of control at asthma.com, then talk to your doctor. there may be more you could do for your asthma. losing thrusters. i need mo
of our tax dollars going to waste. we've learned that one government agency spent $50,000 on a parody movie. today, lawmakers are asking for answers, but one former official does not care to talk. >>> plus, how are things at home? wondering if your relationship's going to last? why don't you ask facebook? because today researchers say facebook can predict whether your relationship will survive. and the key, who your friends are. we'll show you what to look for. >>> and virgin america tries to get passengers to pay attention to inflight instructions. ♪ >>> that is a safety dance. let's get to it. >>> now shepard smith reporting live from the fox news deck. >> first at 3:00 this afternoon, engineers have not had enough time to test the final version of the obama administration's troubled health care website. at least they didn't before it launched on october 1st. that admission from the health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius today testifying before capitol hill. saying government contractors did properly test the individual kpoep components of the system but did not put
the expiration of a payroll tax cut which knocked 2% off consumers monthly paychecks. is that an argument you make? the fact this goes back into the economy as does to heather's point the minimum wage? >> of course. that's also an argument. it's a secondary argument. the main argument we're just being mean-spirited and hurting a lot of people who are in desperate need of help. but the same thing, one of the reasons why we had to fight for stimulus and couldn't put forward programs we wanted to put forward to stimulate the economy, unemployment didn't go down as much as we hoped. of course programs have an effect on the economy. main thing for me, how can we talk in the 21st century being the richest country in the world, people are hurting. the minimum wage was mentioned, just mentioned. we're not raising minimum wage. we're making it harder for people to get a decent wage. you know, the republican party's mantra seems to be. i've got mine, now you go fend for yourself. >> julia, you're in a red state. w.h.o. williams at fox, not a channel known for its liberal views says it's bad politics fo
to get access to a database aimed at busting tax evaders. the new database contains company ownership details. in an effort to expose international money laundering and tax evasion schemes, the information is specific to those with 25% or more of a company's shares or voting rights. by making it public, the british government is hoping to put pressure on firms and individuals trying to hide money and profits. we'll see if that works. all right, landing in egypt, the country's tourism board is launching an ambitious campaign to lure back visitors that haven't been scared off by the political turmoil. yeah, those pictures not helping with tourism. you'd think being home to one of the wonders of the world would be a big enough draw, but egypt has lost $2.5 billion in revenue since the revolution began in 2011. a about eleven and a half people visited egypt in 20 the, hoping -- 2012. some days you're too sick to work. other days you're simply sick of work. and like ferris buehler, you just need a day off. from counterfeit colds to fraudulent flus, you won't believe how far some people go.
is that if you can argue with the record amount of tax revenue the government had coming in this year, it's obviously not the money coming in that's the problem. it's that to keep up with spending it can't and that's the problem. so they look at the leadership among democratic party that we don't really have to do much about spending. we're spent looking after spending. what we have to do is get more taxes to pay for that spending. that to me seems upside down. what do you make of all this? >> no matter how you spend it in a federal budget that big, you would hope that republicans and democrats could at least agree to get rid of some of the wasteful spending. the fraud and abuse that target things like $23 million in medicare benefits to dead people. senator coburn's office does a great service putting together a waste book every year. last year in 2012 his waste book detailed $18 billion in government spending on projects that everyone should agree are not a good use of taxpayer dollars. there's room for cutting. it's a very difficult thing again to defend that the cupboard is bare. >> i
's also been involved in property tax fights in kansas, ohio, and texas. the news comes -- this news comes just weeks after "the times" reported the kochs were, quote, deeply involved with groups that plotted the government shutdown. and gave millions to another group that made the creepy uncle sam ads. trying to scare people not to get health insurance. here's how they got into the halloween spirit. ♪ >> now the fear campaign could be coming to your local town. and just like last year, the fight is on. joining me now are krystal ball and james peterson. thank you both for being here. >> thanks for having us, rev. >> krystal, a koch-backed tea party group getting involved in iowa city council race. what's the strategy here? >> the kochs have always been willing to push their ideologies at all levels. these are the guys also behind the american legislative exchange council. and they pushed their agenda through model legislation that was anti-worker and pro-big business at the state level across the country. so this is something they've been doing in different ways across the country. i th
taxes for the rich and implements harsh restrictions to republgtive health. at the same time, he has defied his own republican tea party. there are two possibilities of what's going on and they're not mutually exclusive. one is that he's actually standing up against the right wing in ohio because he believes it's wrong and inexcusable to make 270,000 ohioans go without health care. he realizes his first two years in office were far to the right over the ohio electorate. and this is an attempt to move back in line with the public and set himself up for an event chul presidential run. senator, what is your read on the state of play of the politics of medicaid expansion in your state right now? >> complicated, chris, on the one hand, the government should have definitely used political courage, the fourth his gop members in the house and the senate to bring it to the floor for a vote. he refused to do that. they refused to do that. one in six ohioans live in poverty so we need real leadership here. the fact that this was pushed through the controlling board -- so those over 275,000 work
to compete for the hispanic vote. it will give us a playing field where we can argue for lower taxes, less regulation, smaller government, strong military, et cetera. but if we don't pass it, we will not compete for the hispanic vote. >> if we don't pass it, we will not compete for the hispanic vote. do you think he's right? >> yeah, i think he's absolutely right, and i actually would make an argument for not only the hispanic vote but also for independent voters, right? so, immigration reform and the current moral crisis that exists in our community because, you know, 1,100 people are getting deported every day that president obama doesn't halt the deportations and every day the house republicans don't act on this bill. so, i think americans have tuned in to that. i think americans understand the crisis that our community is faced with every day, and they tie that to the inaction. i mean, but republicans have now this track where they have to first fail at something to then realize that it's political suicide for them to continue on that destructive path. >> that's a good point, and that
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